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Greylord Kane
Dredge Nation
Short Bus Syndicate
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Posted - 2016.09.22 17:44:04 -
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Hmmm Okay so how is having a cloaky AFK camped in system from downtime for the whole day not a exploit? It ruins gameplay for HUNDREDS of people and really causes people to just stay in stations. Is this what EVE is about? Is it about allowing these kind of exploits that make the game non playable because people are scared to undock? CCP you need to fix this... There has to be away for them to have timer or a mod to de-cloak people in systems? |
Greylord Kane
Dredge Nation
Short Bus Syndicate
3
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Posted - 2016.09.22 18:10:15 -
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Well it causes a false sense if they are there or not. So people are not going to undock if they are not sure...hence causing people to stay in stations. Yes a empty chair cannot in fact kill anyone but if a bomb is sitting there without someone holding a detonator doesn't mean people are just going to go about their day now does it? There absolutely nothing wrong with having something to allow a bit more fair game like a de cloaking device? becuase if they aren't camping cloaked afk then they will be aware won't they? So it even's the playing field. It doesn't ruin anything isk wise earning..shoot might even bring more people out of the station for some action? |
Greylord Kane
Dredge Nation
Short Bus Syndicate
3
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Posted - 2016.09.22 20:23:25 -
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Spoken like a true camper..lol j/k We can circular reason all day on this topic but a de-cloaking device would delineate cloakers vrs Cloaky AFK campers with no hinder to drops or things alike. The only one that would endanger are people who are AFK camping. Hey why not make it harder for campers? I have no problem with hot dropping or black ops cyno...but making it a bit more challenging would enhance the game and if AFK campers can't handle that..they can go to H.S.... cloak... and sit in a asteroid belt and go make pancakes :) A de-cloaking device would not guarantee 100% free ratting as you suggest. A system that would say de cloak a camper for a period of two minutes to which the cloaker can warp away and re-cloak gives the system a chance to hunt for them, and since the cloakers are active and NOT AFK the can just warp away and bounce until the timer is done. They could have a nice long timer put on the device that only let's it be used 30 minutes or so.. there has to be a balance. |
Greylord Kane
Dredge Nation
Short Bus Syndicate
3
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Posted - 2016.09.22 20:41:55 -
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Getting rid of Local is an interesting idea :) Not sure why you are so afraid of balance unless you somehow think it will effect gameplay? Can you explain to me how my proposed idea will effect game play in a negative light? Can you tell me how AFK camping can be justified? You know as well as I not everyone can just join a fleet all the time, and some don't like to... so the theory to just join fleet will leave those smaller groups just locked down in stations? |
Greylord Kane
Dredge Nation
Short Bus Syndicate
3
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Posted - 2016.09.22 21:05:35 -
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Teckos Pech wrote:Greylord Kane wrote:Getting rid of Local is an interesting idea :) Not sure why you are so afraid of balance unless you somehow think it will effect gameplay? Can you explain to me how my proposed idea will effect game play in a negative light? Can you tell me how AFK camping can be justified? You know as well as I not everyone can just join a fleet all the time, and some don't like to... so the theory to just join fleet will leave those smaller groups just locked down in stations? Because your idea would be a nerf to ATK cloaking ships too. Suppose I want to roam around you systems in a cloaking ship and try to catch ratters and miners who are also watching Netflix, now my game just got nerfed even though I am ATK. That idea is not new and has been proposed since forever.
Yeah good points! That would be something they would have to figure out. AFK ratting, Mining are both an issue. |
Greylord Kane
Dredge Nation
Short Bus Syndicate
3
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Posted - 2016.09.22 21:13:26 -
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Sonya: Of course you in your bias opinion it is balanced, and in my bias opinion it isn't.. that will just go round and round...lol Thanks though for a more debate than argument... Appreciate that! |
Greylord Kane
getyourrocks Corp
Integritas Constans
10
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Posted - 2017.07.25 21:56:56 -
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OKay so that thread got locked..
To answer your question Daichi Yamato this topic will keep going back and forth until CCP decided what they are going to do. I have been in EVE since the beginning so you know, the VERY beginning...... and it's a shame. really. This topic will go back and forth. But yes if requested by CCP I can show over 10 paid accounts from our corp alone to them because of this very problem. And I am sure there are countless more. Hunting is not when you log in at down time and keep your character on until the next downtime,,,,, and just leave for the day no matter how you try to spin it. You can define it how you will, I define it as I will. |
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